tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4815867514277794362.post2058124056195804584..comments2024-03-08T06:18:28.125+11:00Comments on Bronte Capital: Coronado Biosciences is not exactly kosherJohn Hemptonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03766274392122783128noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4815867514277794362.post-47737185744454862012-06-30T04:47:43.932+10:002012-06-30T04:47:43.932+10:00Anonymous, re. yoghurt and cheese: a bacterium isn...Anonymous, re. yoghurt and cheese: a bacterium isn't the same as a parasite. Some bacteria are actually symbiotic with humans--they are "good" in that we benefit from having them, and may feel terrible if we don't. Parasites are just parasites.<br /><br />Is it just me or does medicine seem to be getting more and more disgusting as our proficiency with technology increases?Erinhttp://www.ipoboutique.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4815867514277794362.post-45106954777787371482012-06-29T23:34:19.686+10:002012-06-29T23:34:19.686+10:00Although I know absolutely nothing about Coronado ...Although I know absolutely nothing about Coronado Biosciences and although I am always highly skeptical of anything coming from a publicly traded biotech firm, there may be some basis for their statements:<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helminthic_therapy<br /><br />And believe it or not, research indicates whipworm infection may harbor value as a treatment for Crohn's disease as well as for ulcerative colitis:<br /><br />http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1856386/?tool=pmcentrez<br /><br />And as for Ovamed GmbH, although it all sounds strange, they are indeed the primary source for the trichura suis ova done in most related research:<br /><br />http://opensourcehelminththerapy.org/mediawiki2/images/b/ba/Trichuris_suis_ova_therapy_for_allergic_rhinitis.pdf<br /><br />Again, I'm not vouching for Coronado or any of its claims but Crohn's disease is an incurable, difficult to treat disease that has sufficient prevalence that someone with an effective therapy would likely make a lot of money:<br /><br /> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crohn's_diseaseAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4815867514277794362.post-3620270630051457602012-06-29T20:48:58.922+10:002012-06-29T20:48:58.922+10:00If the treatment worked, no one would care if it w...If the treatment worked, no one would care if it was OK with the rabbi or not. <br /><br />But your are right that god does have a wicked sense of humor.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4815867514277794362.post-26436538135612599052012-06-28T03:13:53.564+10:002012-06-28T03:13:53.564+10:00Crohn's is certainly not exclusive to Ashkenaz...Crohn's is certainly not exclusive to Ashkenazi.<br /><br />I have a cousin with it who's pretty pure red haired Irish - I think there are other populations to test this in.<br /><br />BobBob Schriverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03032869236732750105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4815867514277794362.post-35224777580315551102012-06-27T15:19:06.487+10:002012-06-27T15:19:06.487+10:00I am not sure I see the pig problem in terms of Ko...I am not sure I see the pig problem in terms of Kosher any more. See the Rabbinical opinion up front.<br /><br />--<br /><br />It is amusing though.<br /><br />And the small correction re origin versus orthodoxy of the Jews in question is fair comment and my mistake...<br /><br />JohnJohn Hemptonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03766274392122783128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4815867514277794362.post-61648963031566321232012-06-27T15:18:51.073+10:002012-06-27T15:18:51.073+10:00Same goes for HeparinSame goes for HeparinAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4815867514277794362.post-30159792624363547472012-06-27T15:14:57.915+10:002012-06-27T15:14:57.915+10:00A small correction - An Orthodox Jew may well be A...A small correction - An Orthodox Jew may well be Ashkenazi (European), Sephardic (Iberian/North African), or Mizrahi (generally Middle Eastern). An Orthodox Jew can be a member of any of the three main regional backgrounds, much as a member of the Conservative or Reform Movement can be. I believe that Crohn's is indeed found in greater numbers among the Ashkenazi population, regardless of which movement they follow.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4815867514277794362.post-38710784638995315852012-06-27T12:36:15.890+10:002012-06-27T12:36:15.890+10:00Noticed that a director bought 200,000 shares toda...Noticed that a director bought 200,000 shares today!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4815867514277794362.post-69855310011856251392012-06-27T11:53:24.286+10:002012-06-27T11:53:24.286+10:00I don't see why people see the pig connection ...I don't see why people see the pig connection as a "kosher" problem. The first commecial insulin was derived from pigs (and both Jews and muslims had no problem with that). Heart valves were also initially taken from pigs, again, no issue. ACTH (see Questcor Pharmaceuticals) is extracted from pig pituitary glands, again no issues. Ultimately, the pig has been a source of pharmaceutical preparations for a long time. And for those that are worried about "creepy crawlers", have you seen the recent commercials for activia. That contains live bacterial culture, and people don't seem to mind. And on that topic, bacteria for cheesemaking is derived from cow stomachs, yet cheese consumption in the US continues to grow steadily (caveat: I am not sure if there is any live culture or even milk products in American cheese, but that's a separate discussion).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4815867514277794362.post-41698646861355273902012-06-26T20:04:08.159+10:002012-06-26T20:04:08.159+10:00Doesn't have to be all that liberal an opinion...Doesn't have to be all that liberal an opinion either. Kosher or not also depends upon the number of removes, the distance from whatever it is that was not kosher.<br /><br />As an example, cochineal, derived from insects and the red in red Smarties for many years, is not kosher. But I seriously doubt that a wheat crop that had been fertilised with some amount of pig slurry would be regarded as non-kosher.<br /><br />Perhaps even that would: but there is still a limit to the number of removes that count.Tim Worstallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13161727860817121071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4815867514277794362.post-64804600475717802972012-06-26T18:57:39.825+10:002012-06-26T18:57:39.825+10:00To support the previous anonymous:
"Every law...To support the previous anonymous:<br />"Every law of Kashruth, according to all Jewish Rabbinic authorities of the ages in a rare agreement, makes the assertion that the laws can be broken when any life is at stake. "Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4815867514277794362.post-43869511058878693572012-06-26T12:11:53.008+10:002012-06-26T12:11:53.008+10:00John,
Halacha (jewish law) provides for a hierarc...John,<br /><br />Halacha (jewish law) provides for a hierarchy of obligations.<br /><br />Life takes priority over all else, and health (being required for life) takes priority over almost all else.<br /><br />Thus (technically speaking), if eating non-kosher meat (ie. pork) is a necessary medical treatment, it would be OK under Jewish law.<br /><br />By the way, the major issue here would not be that the worms come from pigs, but that worms are not Kosher in an of themselves - no crawly things (like insects) are.<br /><br />SBAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4815867514277794362.post-76120976833809492642012-06-26T12:11:25.421+10:002012-06-26T12:11:25.421+10:00I'm guessing there is a lot more wrong with th...I'm guessing there is a lot more wrong with the company than just what you posted but I don't think the fact that the researched treatment is not kosher would be an issue. I know several people who have UC and Crohn's, none of whom are Jewish. Also David Garrad an African American NFL quarterback has Crohn's. I think there is a large non Jewish population that is affected by the diseases the treatment targets.Bennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4815867514277794362.post-58191178867468704222012-06-26T12:09:00.214+10:002012-06-26T12:09:00.214+10:00Via email I have received admittedly fairly libera...Via email I have received admittedly fairly liberal Rabbinical opinion that there is no problem with taking medicine that is extracted from pig stools.<br /><br />I just thought I should note this.<br /><br /><br />JohnJohn Hemptonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03766274392122783128noreply@blogger.com